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COLD WEATHER CLASS- MY NOTES

posted Sep 11, 2016 03:44:29 by ArleneLeyRobinson

Arlene Robinson- Preparedness

A few years ago, I attended a class by Laurence Smith on Cold Weather, and the physiology behind avoiding hypothermia. There is a short (10 min) video on youtube they had us watch that's interesting called 'freezer test' that you should watch. Has two people dressed in different protection outfits and puts them to the test. It's changed forever how I view staying warm.

This is a 'must watch' in my opinion!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug3QS4Wn-ds

Also, the history of "Pals" on youtube is supposed to have some great information, although I haven't seen this yet.

Some quick, general notes from the class:

* AIR insulates! So when you are dressed for cold weather... look FAT!
*Foam holds dry air next to your body: it's the best insulator.
*Hypothermia occurs when your CORE temp is low. Your core is from your head down to your thighs, excluding your arms. Your hands and feet will stay fairly warm if your core temp is good. *When hypothermia sets in, ands and feet will get cold, circulation will decrease, coordination decreases, may become irrational, and eventually suffer a slow, painful death.

Some scientific laws:
*Water moves away from heat!
*People are like large bags of water and we leak all of the time. Waterproofing in extreme cold can kill you, because water (excreted from your body) freezes and ice builds up between the layers (of clothing).
*Layers are ok if it's not too cold. But when moisture forms between the layers, it freezes and lowers your core temp.

*****DEHYDRATION is the primary TRIGGER for hypothermia! (Just like dehydration kills us when it's too hot!)
*We need more fluids when cold.... even more than when we're hot.
*When hydration decreases, we get irrational, can't concentrate or think, and coordination goes down.

Have water packets in your 72 hr. emergency kits!

As you will see in the video, foam suits are the best for cold, with a NYLON shell over top (not cottons or wools). Must be synthetic materials.
*1 inch foam best for below 0 temps. 1/2 inch foam is fine down to around 0 degrees. If your home has no fuel/electricity for long term, your house temp could be around 20 degrees! You will eventually run out of emergency fuel for alternate heat sources, so one of these foam suits will keep you alive. You can also line sleeping bags etc. with the foam!!! Keep foam away from heat or flame. There’s more info on the following web site. Foam clothing can be made or purchased.

http://www.jimsway.com/atjs1.html
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HealingWarrior said Sep 11, 2016 04:14:26
So is P A L S and TJS the same thing
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HealingWarrior said Sep 11, 2016 04:20:50
how do you make your own TJS clothes??
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Mary-Turton said Sep 11, 2016 11:41:59
Has anyone at NFP made their own foam clothing?

How many at NFP have foam clothing or purchased foam clothing for the CO?
Moses 7:18

18 And the Lord called his people Zion, because they were of one heart and one mind, and dwelt in righteousness; and there was no poor among them.

mlturton@gmail.com
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Karla Paul said Sep 11, 2016 11:44:18
Great posts Arlene! Thanks for sharing.
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Mary-Turton said Sep 11, 2016 11:47:00
For sure, @Karla -- @Arlene, thanks so much!
Moses 7:18

18 And the Lord called his people Zion, because they were of one heart and one mind, and dwelt in righteousness; and there was no poor among them.

mlturton@gmail.com
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ArleneLeyRobinson said Sep 11, 2016 20:19:54
Healingwarrior- yes, the same. Here's a short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxqV8FgLZeg

Mary-Turton- I did not make my own, but had them made for me. They're a little 'crude' (i.e. not as nice looking as the professional ones), but I didn't have a lot of money at the time, and had to make them for my family of 6... so paid a friend of a friend to do it. I think I paid $75 or $85 per piece (i.e. either top or bottom). This did not include the nylon shell on top. I know that you need an industrial sewing machine to make them. Hope that's helpful! ~Arlene
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Mary-Turton said Sep 12, 2016 00:08:14
Thanks so much, Arlene. That's encouraging to know. I watched alot of videos last night on this. I saw on the Fortress Co. website that they are 12 weeks out with filling orders. I'm investigating who makes them and how much they charge. I'd like to be able to sew them, but don't have that much confidence, even though I've done some sewing and quilting. I, to, don't have an industrial sewing machine

So, if your do not have a nylon shell on top, is it just the raw foam showing?
Moses 7:18

18 And the Lord called his people Zion, because they were of one heart and one mind, and dwelt in righteousness; and there was no poor among them.

mlturton@gmail.com
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ArleneLeyRobinson said Sep 12, 2016 00:39:26
Mary-Turton- Yes, right now mine is the foam only.. I have purchased cheap nylon jackets and pants at the thrift store, but I haven't put them together yet. Do you by any chance live in SW Idaho? If so, I know someone who sells this clothing from one of the big companies (it may be the one you mentioned).~Arlene
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JenniferJones said Sep 12, 2016 01:16:49
I know Nancy here on the forum has made them.
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HealingWarrior said Sep 12, 2016 01:17:57
can you use a surger to sew them or do you need something bigger
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HealingWarrior said Sep 12, 2016 01:19:19
where can you purchase the foam to have someone sew it? patterns?? what kinda thread?? I do not have 400 to purchase a suit, however I see the benefits of having them for the extremely cold days
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HealingWarrior said Sep 12, 2016 01:20:12
nancy who?? (Jennifer)
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ShellyEthingtonPearson said Sep 12, 2016 01:20:53
U Line sells it by the roll.
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JenniferJones said Sep 12, 2016 01:34:24
I have a DVDs on how to sew it. You can use a regular machine if you use 1/2 inch foam. Don't use a serger. You sandwich the foam in between the material or use a strip of cloth when sewing with foam. Don't sew directly on the foam.
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JenniferJones said Sep 12, 2016 01:34:57
Nancy Archibald.
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